Want to keep your EU passport? Here’s how.

I’m angry. I’m angry because I’m about to be stripped of my EU citizenship. I was asked if I wanted to keep it. I said I did. But it’s being torn from my hands nonetheless. But I’ve got an idea…

There will come a moment, on a date we don’t yet know, when as the clocks strike 12 the UK will tumble out of the European Union. At a stroke, tens of millions of Brits will lose the right to live, work, study and retire with the minimum of fuss across 27 other European countries. It will be a meaningful, tangible and instant loss of opportunity and freedom – one forced on 60+ million people by the 17 million who voted Leave on 23rd June.

But the sense of foreboding loss that I feel goes deeper than simply losing the legal right to go grey in Gran Canaria. To many of us our European citizenship is as important as our British citizenship (for some, even more so). We’re proud of it. It stands for something important – a belief that as a continent we’re better and stronger together, not broken up, bickering and Balkanised. We’ve tried that before; it doesn’t end well.

Some of my friends and people I work with are lucky. The good fortune of having a father born in Ireland means one can clamber aboard the shamrock lifeboat. Another has been able to claim German citizenship. Another, Cypriot.

Whilst they get to keep the burgundy passport – the ticket to being able to move freely across pretty much the entire continent and to continued citizenship of a noble project – the rest of us await our fate.

But do we have to? Do we have to just accept our lot? I don’t think we do. Let me explain.

Right now, EU citizens are only EU citizens because they’re citizens of the United Kingdom, or Germany, or France, or of one or other EU Member State. So, it’s an inconvenient and unwelcome fact that when the UK ceases to be an EU country, we cease to be EU citizens.

It’s also a fact that more people voted Leave than Remain. We can point out that it was a narrow victory (51.9% to 48.1%) and that the Leave case was a pack of lies abandoned almost instantly by anyone with anything to do with it. But nonetheless the UK Government can claim a mandate to negotiate the UK’s exit from the bloc.

You see the problem? Under current rules, those of us who value being EU citizens have to lose out for Brexit to happen.

But there is a way to square this circle. The EU could allow individuals to become citizens of it directly. They could decouple EU citizenship from citizenship of an EU Member State. Initially at least it could be a special case, only applying to citizens of a departing member.

And it would be ‘opt in’. You’d have to apply. Maybe you’d have to pass a citizenship test, demonstrating knowledge of Europe and the EU. Perhaps you’d have to make a public declaration of support for the EU.

By doing this, British pro-Europeans can maintain their EU citizenship, whilst the anti-Europeans can shake it off. The UK gets to leave; we get to stay. We’re still British citizens. We continue to live (most of us) here in the UK. We simply become British/EU dual nationals with one of these in our pocket…


Nothing is taken away from those who voted Leave. They get what they wanted – a UK exit from the EU. They can even take us out of the Single Market and the customs union, if they want to completely trash the economy.

It gives something to those who want it, without taking anything from those who don’t.

But why would the rest of the EU offer us this? Well, with the UK exiting, the EU will shrink. The idea of the European Union might be seen by some as on the wane. That it’s an idea that’s had its day. But it’s not. And having Brits queuing up to take out EU citizenship – waving EU passports for the TV cameras like Apple Store customers on the day a new iPhone model is released – would inject some much-needed ‘va va voom’ back into the idea of the EU.

If they needed a little extra inducement, what if every new British/EU dual national paid a subscription fee, the equivalent of what we’re currently paying for EU membership through our taxes?

Last year, the UK’s contribution to the EU was £17.8bn gross; £12.9bn post-rebate; and £8.5bn net (after one knocks off all the money we get back for things like farm subsidies). I am using a House of Commons Library briefing paper as a source here. The Office for National Statistics estimates that the population of the UK last year was 65,110,000. So, in 2015, we each paid an average of £22.78 (gross), £16.51 (post-rebate), and £10.88 (net) per calendar month to belong to the EU. Take your pick. It’s freedom of movement meets Netflix.

So, there it is. There’s my idea. I think it works. I think it’s a neat way to square a circle that lets the UK Government implement the result of the referendum, enables British pro-Europeans to keep their citizenship of the most successful peace project in history, whilst providing the EU with a little pep at a time when it needs it.

You with me? I hope so because I want to see if this idea can fly. The first thing we need to do is find out if there’s support for this. I think there is. When I asked on Facebook and Twitter, there seemed to be.

So, what I am asking is this – if you support me, if you want to keep that burgundy passport and continue to sashay through the EU passport channel then sign up to support the idea here. Please also leave a comment below. We’ll see how much support there is and take it from there.

UPDATE: 20,000 people have now signed up to support this campaign. To add your name, please click HERE and use THIS link. Thanks.

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584 thoughts on “Want to keep your EU passport? Here’s how.”

    1. I don’t know much about other EU countries law about citizenship but for all those who live in France, you just need 5 years residency to apply for French citizenship. Many of my British colleagues will do it and thus retain dual citizenship.
      If there is any petition on line for EU citizens to support Stuart’s idea, please let us know.

      1. At the moment it’s just the signup form linked to at the end of the blog post. I’m considering next steps at the moment. Thanks for the support.

        1. I’m in.
          I choose outward looking progressive engagement over inward looking reactionary isolation.
          It would also be a great opportunity for the EU as well as us. I’m keen to see what happens next.

        2. Good stuff Stuart, could it be possible to grant dual citizenship to everyone born within the EU? This would widen the debate to include many of the 28% who didn’t vote and all those under 18 who were denied the vote and now face being denied their birthright. Anyone who feels strongly opposed could just hand their EU passport back.
          All this really needs debating in parliaments across the EU, keep it up.

          1. Thanks. I think the specifics of how it would work would be up to the bigwigs; key thing is to push the idea. Thanks for the support – much appreciated.

          2. Yes, I’d like that. Then my grandchildren would be eligible who were born before the 23rd but won’t be adults for many years yet.

          1. Not sure that my sentiment was “leave it to the bigwigs”, so much as making the obvious point that the fine detail of how any plan would work isn’t going to be up to me, but up to the big decision makers.

      2. As Claire said, I live in France and, if there is no other option, I am intending to apply for my French citizenship, but I like this idea and like the idea of being able to make a show for Europe. I was born in London and am proud of it, I am also [most of the time] proud to be British and am proud and love being European … I love this idea Stuart, [quoting you], it enables [us] British pro-Europeans to keep our citizenship of the most successful peace project in history, whilst providing the EU with a little pep at a time when it needs it.

        A brilliant idea, and a well written piece, I for one hope it works. Thank you.

      3. It’s not that simple, though. You need good language skills and you need an income above the SMIC – there are tens of thousands of Brits in France who don’t meet either or both of those criteria. And it’s expensive to have all the translations, etc, done. And they can still refuse you, even if you meet all criteria.

      4. “Just five years residency to apply” is true but gives no idea of the paperwork and headaches involved in this.

    2. I . Don’t think many pensioners could afford that amount, all the people I know of our age wanted to stay, even though many pensioners were castigated for the leave campaign I do not know anyone my age who voted to leave, yet we are all lumped in together. I think your idea is great and I have signed it. The Oap pension is approximately £500 per month. Could you live on this and pay that subscription? I doubt it.

      1. Hi Penny. Thanks for the support, and for taking the time to comment. I think there would have to be some kind of payment. Someone would have to cover the admin costs, and we’d already be asking for a favour. But I wouldn’t get too caught up in the idea I put forward. It’s just one of many possible ways it could be done. All the best.

    3. I felt as if I had been punched in the stomach on the morning of the 24th June. Also suddenly insecure about my rights as a Dane. My husband, children and grandchildren are British. My husband and I have worked and paid our way without ever claiming benefits. I should get my state pension in a few years or is that in question now? I have never worked in Denmark so won’t qualify for anything there. I have never imagined that as a Danish and so EU citizen I may have to apply to become British. I’m sitting tight at the moment and keep my fingers crossed. What if I got turned down?!!

    4. I hope this works out .
      I want to continue to be a European, because I am a European. I feel betrayed and heartbroken that we are being dragged out because of the scaremongering and lies. So all power to you and many thanks for putting your energy into something so positive x

  1. As a British citizen in Europe it makes a lot of sense. The brexit Britain is not one I feel proud of and I have no desire to be forcibly returned because of a xenophobic minority that voted out….

  2. This is the lifeboat I’ve been hoping & searching for!! The EU may consider this because they have said they will not forget the 48% who voted to remain.

  3. Completely agree. I am absolutely furious at losing my EU citizenship and the squalid way it is happening.

  4. A really good idea, as long as the likes of this government don’t invent something to punish those citizens who keep dual nationality. I would put nothin past them!

    1. Same here, my OH and son will definitely like to be included. My only question, what if the British Govt stops the State Pension – it’s already called a Benefit on DWP headed paper? My OH and I would then only have my teaching Pension to fund our entire survival.

  5. I would like to do this for my children – to hopefully keep for them the free movement that I have benefited from.

  6. There is much I like about the idea, but I have to admit it’s more the protest value, I e govt sees so many if it’s citizens really value their membership. I could see problems of conflicting loyalties etc down the road, so I don’t think the govt will allow it, but I would definitely go for it if there was no otyer option.

  7. I’d be willing to pay far more than that to keep my status as an EU citizen. Heck, I’d renounce my British citizenship if it came to it.

  8. Yes I want to keep my eu passport I travel and also live in Romania 3 months a year plus I buy all my kitchen doors and carcasses from European country’s I class myself as European and don’t want to be anything else I belive in Europe so much it is the only way forward I do not want to go backwards for the idiots that voted no to Europe they can I don’t

  9. So sad that especially those that have had the benefits of EU membership for many years don’t even know it, and they have deprived my children from the choice. I’m in.

  10. Would this possibility be limited to UK nationals, or would anyone from a non-EU country be able to apply (like Estonia’s e-id scheme)?

    1. I think it would have to be limited. I think the UK leaving the EU is an opportunity to try it out as an idea and see if it works. Estonia’s scheme doesn’t entitle participants the right to live or even – I think – visit Estonia, so it’s a very different idea. Thanks for the thoughtful question though.

  11. We are very upset at the threat of having our EU citizenship taken away without our consent, by an unelected PM and an advisory referendum that has no legal authority to remove the UK from the EU, let alone strip us of our EU citizenship. We would be happy to contribute each month to keep it.

  12. What a great idea!
    I’m in as I am as much a Brit as a European.
    Why not petition the European Commission with a Citizen’s initiative as I am sure we pro-EU Brits will get support from friends across Europe…and from the European Parliament!

    1. I think a Citizen’s initiative at the EU level would be a good idea and you certainly will get support from us, continentals. The problem will be reciprocity of rights. But a special status for former-EU citizens could probably be devised. Start with a petition to get support from EU citizens. I already considered voicing to my MP and my MEP my wish for a lenient approach concerning people post-brexit, although I do not want any compromise on FoM, so vital for us living in countries with land borders. Good luck with it.

        1. Stuart, it’s a brilliant idea, but my husband and I are both retired (not all pensioners voted to leave!) and we have no income other than our state pensions. Sadly, we could not afford to pay to keep our EU citizenship. But all strength to your elbow, keep up the fight!

          1. Hi. Thanks for the support. I wouldn’t worry too much about the fee idea as I was just sketching out one possible way for it to work. Participants would have to pay something, as we’d already be asking for a favour, but it could be more progressively priced. Thanks again.

  13. Definitely!

    If needs be, it could also be a blue passport like in the picture which would annoy the Quitters!

    I am all for this, so count me in!

  14. The sentiment is shared but I fear it is unrealistic because the maths is wrong.

    only 16 million Britons apparently wish to be part of the EU, so the number of people wishing to have EU citizenship is not 65 million, but 16 million ( at least only 16 could morally seek to take advantage ). This the cost would be £8bn/16,000,000,000 = £500 pa or £41/month.

    Some might think that affordable, but many will not.

    1. Hi Ian. The idea of the individual contribution is not to replace the UK government’s current national contribution, but rather to have some contribution and commitment from the new citizens. But thanks for taking the time to comment.

    2. Yes, might need to think about some type of ‘discount’ rate for the most vunerable, low income, pensioners, sick, disabled and & their [unpaid]carers. Unfortunately that would mean ‘others’ would have to pay even more.

    3. We have no idea, though, how many of the 13 million who failed to exercise their right to vote, now regret that decision (or lack of it) nor how many of those who voted leave will have changed their view by the time that the tortuous and messy extrication talks are concluded. And there are those who will be added to the electoral register over the next few years to consider as it is their future that has been marred and limited by this disastrous, poorly devised consultation exercise.

  15. Yes please!! Still utterly gutted that we voted to Leave. It’s worth exploring and even proposing it as a policy to the opposition parties in the uk – I’d love to see it as a manifesto commitment.

  16. I voted out, and although I don’t appreciate the insulting rhetoric that assumes I’m automatically a xenophobic bigot, I do think this is a good idea.
    As has been mentioned, it seems to offer a solution that would please most people. My children I’m sure would take advantage of this if it was on offer, so yes, I would support this.

    1. Thanks Debbie. I wanted to see if I could come up with an idea that honours the referendum result – i.e. that the UK leaves the EU – whilst trying to accommodate the very deep attachment very many pro-Europeans have to the EU. As I say in the blog post, I think this squares that circle. Thanks for the comment.

    2. Debbie I am anglo greek ,duel citizen worked all my Life in clinical care in NHS And now live happily in BULGARIA paying uk tax
      No I do not believe u or many people I know voted out ,are racist , although plainly Some on that side were zenophobic And the lies etc A disgrace to democracy , just as Some inners! came across as looking down on their fellow citizens beyond watford gap only able to run A grey men in grey suits scare story with NOTHING uplifting that would give people the vision to support.
      And Uk gov has to honour the decision And that is beyond any doubt ,. But no one can claim it an over whelming brexit vote in terms of A HARD brexit to use the jargon
      And the concerned of 16 m including mostly young cannot be ignore
      Debbie for what it worth , I believe the anger rightly felt by millions and by me too , towards our failing democracy And its arrogant elites was deftly turned towards the EU ,And heat taken of them .We Don’t blame the poor for our Hospital And schools, but lack of investment year in year while We bombed Afganistan And Iraq etc in great power fiction. I worked in A large GH and did not see hordes of europeans laying in beds excluding uk citizens, but I say daily including me , A majority of staff from else where. Not just europe .
      Ok I had A PROFESSIONAL level job but for the basic jobs And money offered brits not willing in main, to work And I cannot blame them for not wanting to work for pea nuts but nor do I believe being born in uk is entitlement to free keep !!
      And how can europeans And lets be clear its code for eastern europe And is it not as second class ? how can they be taking the jobs yet living of the State at sane time , And yes individual cases either brit or other , do not make a summer as they say .
      Here in BULGARIA brits ( although not all) very often not learning a word of language And buying up village houses that will deprive young Bulgarians of A home in future years , are warnly welcomed but they live close in their own circle that same condem in uk .

      Here in BULGARIA No one wants A super State And this won’t happen , but No one wants A return to nationalism either And that evil road . The refugee crisis would be happening regardless of Eu And I am Greek And We see it on the door Step
      Surely We can agree a way forward that recognise brexit while also refusing to pandwr to zenophobic trends or nostalgia of a gone past And thinks about our future. For all. Sadly I do not belive murdoch press And right wing tories CARE about either , or the joke that is labour now And largely responsible for how We got here with its Blair years arrogance towards ordinary people , u And me that is. Best wishes. Debbie

    1. With respect, neither should you think , nor allow yourself to be intimidated into thinking along these lines.
      This proposal is about retaining full citizenship, not relinquishing any aspect or component of it.

  17. Well I think it is an interesting idea and it falls in with my way of thinking about dual nationality. However I very much doubt if enough UK citizens would volunteer to pay what amounts to an extra tax.
    You have probably noticed that the British make something of a hobby out of avoiding tax and an extra £10 or so per month would not be met enthusiastically.
    Couple this with the cost of administering such a membership scheme and I doubt if the EU would be very enthusiastic.
    It is an idea worth exploring though; I may be wrong.

    1. Hi Phil. Simple – if they don’t pay the extra amount, they don’t get EU citizenship. Many will not want it. That’s fine. And I think the idea of the fee is not to replace the UK government’s current contribution, but simply to make a contribution of some kind; to make a commitment.

      1. Great idea Stuart
        I agree with the person above who said it would need to be accessible to those on low incomes. £10-20 a month while peanuts to some is prohibitively expensive to others. It’s not as if that money is suddenly available to us upon leaving the EU; in fact many people would be worse off.
        It would make more sense to me to look at the cost of actually administering such a scheme. I presume of the country’s current membership a tiny fraction goes on admin? Therefore the per capita cost would be considerably less than the amount you suggest.
        This amount could be spread across the people wanting membership with a concession rate for those on low incomes.

        1. Hi Sophie. Thanks for taking the time to comment. I’d just say that I don’t want to get too bogged down in the fine detail of the idea at this stage, but it’s a good point that you make.

        2. I would be more than happy (overjoyed even!) to follow this route. I get that it is at a very early stage, but as others have mentioned, I definitely couldn’t afford (for example) £10/month for myself plus the same for my children and partner. Sophie Varlow’s suggestion seems definitely more affordable, and I hope, achievable. I’d have some concern, whatever the cost, about what we might ‘get’ in return for the financial contribution/gesture – if it is symbolic, or if there was a 2-tier system whereby people paying more could get access to other EU benefits like freedom of movement. (A 2-tier system would be very disappointing to me due to the cost.)

          I imagine you will also need legal advice which unless you found people willing to work for free, so maybe crowdfunding for that initial push? A lot to think about, and thank you for thinking about it!

          1. Hi, and thanks for commenting. At the moment it’s just a “big picture” idea. The payment idea I suggested is just that, an idea. I think a contribution would have to be made; someone has to pay and we are asking for something, so it would be cheeky also to expect our fellow Europeans to pay for it too. But exactly how that is done is, of course, up in the air. I just guess it has to be simple and would have to be separate from the UK tax system, as that would require the approval of the UK Government. I wouldn’t want to get too bogged down in the details; after all, the Leave campaign won a referendum without getting bogged down in the details, so why should we?

        3. Agree with this- my immediate reaction was here we go again, ” schemes for those who can afford it”. What about those who voted to remain who will not be able to afford it? But in principal it sounds positive and I’d support it.

          1. Hi Penny. This is a big ask of us to start with, so I think if we also said to the rest of the EU that we want them to cover the costs of it too then it would almost certainly consign the idea to the dustbin. There will be costs and participants would have to bear them; exactly how that works is totally up for grabs. I have come up with one idea; there will be many others that work perfectly well and which you’d prefer. I think however that that is a debate for another day, if – and it’s a big if – this idea can make progress.

      2. Further to the fee surely there would be a one off charge for the passport to cover admin costs? I’m all for it by the way.

      3. On the surface your proposal seems like a good idea, but its actually very divisive . The red colour of your passport could to seen as a political affiliation with a foreign power,or , the blue, a symbol of nationalistic pride , and xenophobic leanings. Acceptance would be best all round.

        1. Why is it divisive? There are loads of dual nationals living in the UK and around the world. This is just the same. And with this idea, no-one is compelled to do anything. If you don’t want it, don’t apply for it; if you do want it, apply for it.

  18. Happy to support this. Desperately worried about everything that’s happening and happy to do almost anything to keep my EU rights. Well done for trying this!

  19. I’m all for it.
    Our democracy is so outdated, that 17 million becomes a larger majority than 43 + million.

  20. You’re not the only person to suggest this. I don’t think the EU will go for it, but if they did, yes, I’d be right there near the head of the queue. So, you have my support.

  21. This is quite appealing to me, comes second on my list of ‘options’.
    option 1. Simply Stop this Madness and drop brexit like the hot potatoe that it is.
    option 2. ‘This’ EU citizenship idea.
    option 3. Convert to Mormanism and Marry a continental lass [or 2].
    Just realised, I could actualy go for ALL of those options combined 🙂

    1. You live in a democratic country and the people have spoken. That still stands even if you think they have been lied to/tricked.

      1. Indeed, Mike, Brian lives in a democratic country, which is why he’s entitled to say what he’s said. After a general election, those who voted for the parties that lose are still allowed an opinion. The alternative is tyranny.

      2. Mike yes AGREE And gov must take brexit forward , but as stated else where, this does not MEAN u cannot disagree still ,as I am sure Nigel would be doing if vote gone other way , as indeed he stated he would carry on fighting . Otherwise tyrany of majority
        But that is not my point , My point is yes marrow mandate for leave but NOT A MANDATE FOR A HARD BREXIT .This is arrogance And lack of democracy And ignoring 16m And indeed Some who voted brexit too.

      3. When you say “the people have spoken” I take it you mean the 52% of those who were a) eligible and b) could be bothered to vote and who decided to exercise that right.
        48% of those of us who a) eligible and b) could be bothered to vote voted to Remain.
        This does not take into account those who were, for whatever reason, age, unregistered etc. who may have swung the decision the other way. We cannot know, but your statement that “the people have spoken” is inaccurate.

  22. Hi – I’ts a lovely thought provided that the UK would also agree to the duel nationality aspect of it. I’m a pensioner living in Spain with my Chinese wife and son. We were actually planning to sell up here sand move to France until this terrible brexit fiasco. Now, although we all have permanent residence in Spain we are worried nonetheless that it could be cancelled following a spat between the UK and Spain over Gibraltar or the price of imported tomatoes.
    The UK is the last place on earth that we would want to go to and with all the xenophobia there which was bad enough when I left 12 years ago, I would not want my family to be subjected to it.
    If it were possible to gain duel nationality this way it would be excellent. My fear is that the British Government would probably stop paying my state pension and we would have nothing to live on. Currently we are considering moving to China. I would however support this idea if it did not result in the loss of State Pension.

  23. You say it was forced on 60 million Brits by 17 million who voted to leave. What adout the other 43 million they had the vote as well. Maybe you should be criticizing those for not keeping Britain in the EU.

    1. I believe I am right in saying that post-referendum surveys have shown that non-voters were more Remain than Leave, so it is indeed frustrating that they didn’t turn out. That said, Ian, what I am proposing here is something that includes the UK leaving the EU and which wouldn’t force Leave supporters to accept anything they didn’t want to accept. I am simply trying to work out a solution for the very many people for whom EU citizenship is important.

    2. Some of us were denied a say in a decision that has massive repercussions for us. I am all for this idea I hope it comes to fruition!

  24. Great idea, thanks Stuart. Unless the annual fee were set at a level that effectively replaced the UK’s current net contribution to the EU budget (an earlier comment suggests this might be £500 or more), this is primarily a symbolic initiative. And ‘EU citizens’ from the UK couldn’t offer anything substantial in return i.e. the freedom of movement rights into the UK that citizens of other EU countries currently enjoy. So the advantages of EU citizenship (apart from the burgundy passport) would have to be primarily symbolic. But a symbolic initiative is nonetheless valuable, and I’m right behind it. I think the EU Parliament would be most attracted to it, so maybe lobby them first?

    1. I think freedom of movement is the main advantage for Brits, as well as affirming the identity they may have with the European Union. For the EU, I think the main advantage is to nip in the bud the sense that it might be on the decline. There is genuine attachment to the EU among many that is as strong as others feel for their nation state. I think the contribution element could even be done away with, just an additional idea really. Thanks for commenting.

  25. Love it and you have my vote on it . Thanks Ian. I have posted your link on a Facebook Group called RIFT. So you might get some of us EU citizens living in france, adding to your idea.



  26. I would happily pay to retain my EU citizenship; it need not be difficult to administer either.
    Personally, I value my EU citizenship over my UK nationality at present and I feel abandoned by my country after the referendum result.

  27. I was brought up a European, I am European through every part of my being. They won’t ever take that away from who I am but if I can keep some of the legal rights we currently enjoy I wouldn’t feel like I lost my country any more.

  28. It would be a great idea, but what about those who want to remain EU citizen and can’t afford the £10 or £22 per month?

    1. Hi Wayne. It’s just an embryonic idea, so I wouldn’t get caught up in the detail. Right now, it’s more a case of the principle of direct EU citizenship for British pro-Europeans, assuming the UK leaves the EU.

  29. yes, I would go for it- thanks for your work. I would retain EU citizenship for myself and my children (under 18) if I could.

  30. Ok, here is the catch. But we should definitely pursue it anyway! The EU has a constitution, unlike the UK… The EU cannot just pass a law to allow for this. This would have to be approved by the 27 member states. Still it is a good idea to push this so that it starts a useful debate within the EU about this issue.

    1. An idea worth pursuing. Better than sitting helplessly in a tumbril waiting for the axe to fall.

  31. Count me in although it wouldn’t solve the very distressing and unsurmountable problems pensioners would face if there is no continued reciprocal health care. Very few could afford 100% private medical cover and would be forced (kicking and screaming) back to the UK – there to face more problems with no entitlement to social housing as most would have an unsellable home in the EU so technically not homeless. I’m sure quite a few of us will kick the bucket ahead of our time just through stress.

    1. True. There are so many problems we face because of Brexit. I hope we find a solution to the issues that are facing you. Good luck. And thanks for the support.

  32. My wife and me are residents in France, and have no intention of moving back to the UK,why should those who voted out impinge on my European status. You have our complete support on this initiative.

  33. Stuart, you’re a hero – I and all my heartbroken and devastated ex-pat friends here in Germany will be right behind you!

  34. Great idea, well worth pursuing. Hope the EU can see the value of keeping well-intentioned and positive people on board. Thanks!

  35. I am a European who is British by birth, I haven’t visited the UK for over 15yrs, I have a 15 yr old child who is also British born and hasn’t visited the UK for 15yrs…We have no desire to return to the UK so anything that enables us to keep our current rights as EU citizens will be supported by me.

  36. In.
    The reality is, there is nothing to be lost by trying, other than time and effort, but much to be gained if it proved to be successful.

  37. My thoughts exactly , but one question , can our government actually remove the freedoms that we currently enjoy with respect to our freedom to move around Europe with out affecting our human rights ? surely not ,

    1. I doubt that the freedom of movement around the EU is covered by human rights legislation. I am afraid that they probably can and they probably will.

  38. I think this a very fun and clever idea. No idea what the legal implications would be nor whether the EU would go for it, but you have my support to try!

  39. I’m British and I’m European,
    Have been since birth – it’s my right,
    I ain’t letting go without a fight.

  40. Great idea and one I am happy to support. The ownership of an EU passport is very important to me. I wish to remain part of the bigger picture. I’m embarrassed to be British and all that that seems to mean right now. I believe the EU to be welcoming, tolerant and for me.

  41. I have discussed ideas similar to this with like minded friends and the consensus reached was that it would not ‘fly’. I would so like to be proved wrong on this – I am definitely up for giving it a shot. Count me in!

  42. I think it is a very interesting idea, certainly worth pursuing. I am Chairman of a group fighting for expatriate rights: Fair Deal for Expats (www.fairdealforexpats.com) and will share this with them, as I believe many members would support it. Please also consider supporting us.

  43. Apparently the total electorate was 46,500,001 for the June 23 vote and the turnout was 33,551,983. 17,410,742 voted to Leave, so in fact, 37% of the electorate have potentially stripped the entire population (and future population) of EU citizenship.

  44. Stuart, just a question: what would be in it for all the other EU countries (other than it being a good PR exercies and providing the EU with a small additional income)?

    In theory, love the idea. In practice not sure how it would work – but as you say, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

    1. From what I read & hear, an important goal for the other EU countries in the exit negotiations will be to keep the EU show on the road. A country – a big country – is leaving, for the first time. They don’t want this to start a trend. Demonstrating, visibly, that even in exiting Britain there are many people who value their EU citizenship and want to keep it will help with that narrative. Additionally, typically migrants are able, productive people (the ones who come to the UK are), so encouraging them to continue to work and contribute to the countries remaining in the EU would probably be a good thing.

      1. I think you raise a valid point here but for the wrong reasons – if the EU is seen to make concessions to countries who as a whole have voted out, but then allows individuals to rejoin on a pay as you go basis, then this could open the floodgates to other countries who are dissatisfied with their package deal membership cherry picking the best bits. Freedom of movement has already been highlighted as a mutually beneficial relationship only by the EU, so what possible reason would the EU have for allowing certain citizens of a former member country access to freedom of movement across Europe, paid for or otherwise, without reciprocation from the UK?

        1. Hi Gayle. The potential benefits to the EU and its members are set out in the blog post, and in the comment to which you’re replying. They might not be strong enough, but if we don’t try we’ll certainly fail. Also, on the “won’t all the others want it?”, why would other countries want to exit the EU and then have loads of their nationals take out citizenship of the EU; how would that benefit them?

          1. It’s a wonderful idea. But I have to agree with Gayle, I can’t see the EU being able to accept it due to the ‘dominos’ argument. It would be a lovely gesture, but remember, one that isn’t being reciprocated. The EU doesn’t have a problem with Brits coming to Europe it’s the other way round. It just can’t accept the stance that Britain wants its money but not its people. Incidentally I think Europe will offer some form of free access to British people regardless of Brexit – just not citizenship.

  45. While I disagree with your claim that “we voted out”, since it was an advisory, pre-legislative opinion poll, not a binding decision mandating change, this seems a worthwhile approach. I read the other day that any EU citizen (at the moment “citizen of an EU member state”) can submit a Bill for the EU parliament’s consideration. If this is the case, such a Bill could be submitted. My only worry then would be, whether many people would then stop opposing brexit, thereby making it easy for the Government to ram this self-evident auto-destruct of the UK through. Yes, I’m a hardline-Remainer 🙂

  46. A great idea, but not as simple as you suggest. For example, we retired lot in France, Spain or wherever, benefit from the reciprocal health deal, and that does cost the UK government quite a bit as they foot the bill, or so I have always been given to understand. Being a European citizen would not be enough for the French health system to say, ‘Who is going to pay for this?’ and expecting us to get 100% private health insurance (unaffordable for most of us) which is the most likely outcome.

    But your scheme would be great just to see how many would actually sign up to it, given the opportunity, and it should not just be open to Brits but to all present EU member countries, as we should have EU citizenship by right, as individuals, not just through our country’s membership.

    1. Thanks Adrian. At least one other person has raised the problems facing British pensioners living on the Continent, especially in relation to health costs. Yes, I can’t say this idea would solve that; it’s not – and can’t be – a silver bullet to eliminate all the many problems that will caused by Brexit. All I can do on that score is wish you good luck, and I hope that the UK Government does not turn out to be as aggressive and uncompromising in its talks as it’s suggesting it will be.

  47. I love this idea. If the government forces me into a “Sophie’s Choice” situation, as it seems likely to do, I would definitely choose European citizenship over British citizenship. Being English and Spanish I identify as European and I am proud of the achievements of the EU in bringing peace and prosperity to Europe. Despite applying for all manner of jobs in the UK, in the last 20 years I have only worked 8 months in the UK, and 5 of those were for a French company! Not having EU Citizenship would be economic suicide for me.

  48. Although I have my doubts that this will work in precisely this form, I commend the idea. I would certainly consider a few hundred pounds per year as money well spent to retian the European element of my patriotic identity.

    1. Yes I definitely want to keep my EU passport – and not just because I only renewed it in August. I want to make a clear statement thar I am and always was a Remainers and no amount of abuse heaped on me by the gutter press is going to change that.

  49. interesting idea, I support it, but I am one of the fortunate ones who qualify for an Irish passport which I received about a month ago……..sick to my stomach with the way the soon to be reduced UK is going.

    1. I am in the same boat as Chris and qualify for Irish passport but fully support this initiative – if it works it would be a life line for many.

  50. I love this. It gives me just a little bit of hope. I’d gladly pay to retain my EU citizenship: it means more to me than citizenship of this cold, inward-looking, sad, mean-spirited country ever could.

    1. Great idea. I posted the same idea on Facebook myself last week saying “it would take a smarter person than me to work out the details” I can see an obvious hitch in that free movement is a right obtained as one of the four freedoms and if we could buy our own EU right of free movement, what incentive is there for other countries not to leave? Details to be worked out I know but fundamentally a fabulous idea.

  51. This is exactly what I would like. An EU OptIn card for those of us who value our EU status. Can we still reap the benefits of being in the EU whilst we hold this EU status please? Benefits denied to those who opt out..

  52. Me to! Since 24 June I’ve been thinking how to retain my EU citizenship, should Brexit become reality. Just hoping that the public mood changes so much that Parliament decides against convinced that it’s not going against ‘the will of the people’ and recognises only 37% of the electorate actually voted in favour anyway and many were denied a vote such as EU migrants established in the UK and many non-resident British citizens.

  53. I like this idea. I was born a European citizen, as were my husband and three children. We desperately want to remain so.

  54. Understand the sentiment but what happens if you need consular assistance when you go abroad. ? There is no EU embassy concept within the EU

    1. Well, you’d still be a UK citizen, so you could go to the UK embassy. And it’s the case currently that for EU citizens, in the absence of your own national embassy, you can access assistance from any EU embassy; that rule could still apply.

  55. “So, in 2015, we each paid an average of £22.78 (gross), £16.51 (post-rebate), and £10.88 (net) per calendar month to belong to the EU. ” I presume these are pre-referendum figures, so would be higher now since the bottom has dropped out of our currency due to Brexit.

  56. I’m totally in! I live in the US but have not taken US citizenship. If hell freezes over in November and I need to leave the US, I would certainly want to be able to return to Europe, first and foremost as a European and then a British subject.

  57. The EU already has a ‘laissez-passe’ passport for EU staff which can be extended to others under exceptional circumstances.

    It would be up to the EU to offer such passports. I doubt that May could interfere with a decision by the European Union to offer passports to it’s own citizens. British citizens are allowed to hold other passports.

    The Republic of Ireland charges people for applying for a passport but I’m not aware of any charge to non-doms for any health insurance discounts etc.

    Also as a citizen of another country, even if non-doms you may have responsibilities re: tax, conscription etc.

    I would suggest a passport for all EU citizens born in the UK (or who became citizens by treaty) who can’t get another EU member state passport by birth, heritage or residency. I would also suggest an EU citizenship test.

  58. If there is any justice, this will happen. And actually I think it could be quite an astute move for the EU. How better to isolate (and dare I say punish) the Brexiters for their attitude than to tempt away the people whom they will need to rely on for their brave new world trade experiment.

  59. Well I love the idea personally – but what worries me is that it might appear yet again to be Brits arguing to retain special status concessions, while citizens of the other 27 nations lose their rights to come here. That feels unjust and a bit too much wanting to ‘have our cake – and eat it’, as Johnson would say. But the EU might feel it was worth it to make a political and philsophical point which demonstrates the value people attach to their EU citizenship and which helps build international solidarity and support.

    1. I see what you’re saying. I guess our excuse would be that we’re not the ones who’ve created this mess.

      1. He was replying to the Boris cake statement, although he didn’t name him.

        Most of their statements have been in response to things the Fab Four have said, just as the £ drops every time they open their mouths.

    2. Thank you Louise, for having a thought about us EU members who may not be offered options. Stuart, with all due respect, we can definitely also say we didn’t create this mess either, since we weren’t even allowed a vote. What a mess. I guess I want to wish you and all good luck. L.

      1. Hi Laura. I sympathise with you completely, and I would love the UK Government to maintain free movement. I wish this whole thing wasn’t happening. I have had some comments saying that the idea here isn’t a solution for this group or that. What I’d say in response is that this is just one idea to help one group of people who will be disadvantaged by Brexit; it’s not intended to be something that’ll solve all the problems caused by the UK leaving the EU. I’d encourage others to come up with other ideas.

  60. yes. I’m in. Should not be offered to people who voted leave IMHO. Should be offered to all Brits who were too young to vote though.

  61. I’m all in support of this and have already sent a paper to the EU Parliament petitioning for exactly this – copy also sent to Guy Verhofstadt requesting he give it consideration as a tool in his negotiating because, at present, we remain EU citizens and our treaty rights include the right not to be discriminated against because of our nationality. I figured it would go nowhere but had to be worth a shot.

  62. I want to retain my entitlement to EU citizenship as does my wife. We live in Greece and want to stay here. Hopefully we will still be able to enjoy reciprocal health care if it is ever needed and, most importantly, our annually upgraded UK State Pensions.
    I have been looking at all sorts of ways to achieve a dual EU/UK passport having missed out by two generations the chance of an Irish passport. The only other chance, having had a Scottish mother, is for Scotland to claim independence from the UK, join the EU, then we can apply for a Scottish/EU passport!
    Good luck with your endevours Stuart and count us in!

    1. Thank you, Ian. My nearest Irish relative was born over 200 years ago, so I’ve also missed that boat. I’m also half-Scottish, so if Nicola Sturgeon has her way I’ll also be entitled to a Scottish passport. Good luck – and I hope you get the reassurance and solution you need. And thank you once again.

  63. Yep, we have to try so that will be me, my husband and two daughters. Will keep everything crossed xxx

  64. Excellent idea, signed by all 3 of us Chaplin’s. W do not want to be forced to loose our EU identity.

  65. Great idea Stuart.. Gets to heart of the problem with European identity and the fact that the institutional architecture of the Union doesn’t allow for it. If any good is to come of Brexit, let it be the creation of a true, legally recognised ‘European’ identity and citizenship. It will be tough, but now is the time for the EU to seek to achieve this. For the sake of national unity, the UK government would do well not to stand in their way while we remain a member.

  66. I have no idea about the practicalities of this and think it deeply unlikely to actually happen, but simply stating that we WANT this to happen is an important declaration.

    I’m European. Nobody can take that way from me. But it’d be a lot easier if I could keep my passport.

  67. Nice idea, but I’m afraid it won’t work. The EU will never agree to favourable treatment for UK citizens to have dual citizenship unless there is ground for EU citizens to have UK citizenship. It simply wouldn’t be acceptable to the EU to give UK remainers a passport while EU nations cannot get a UK passport. Nice try though!

  68. You could count me in. I’ve been thinking that I would happily pay a voluntary contribution to the EU even if it granted me no rights at all. I’d just consider it the exercise of my duty to support the largest and most successful peace project in history.

  69. No idea whether this would fly with other EU governments, but it’s definitely worth trying. Guy Verhofstadt, as the Brexit chief for the European Parliament, might well be sympathetic.

  70. Brilliant idea. Hope it could work in practice.
    Shared on Facebook, Twitter and signed up. Anything else I can do?

    1. I am thinking about next steps. Over 3,000 have signed up to back the idea, and this blog post only went live this morning, so that’s a great first step. Thanks for the support.

    1. I’m in, but I bet Nicola Sturgeon will want a discount for bulk signings 😉

      Get Khan on Board and London’s behind ya 🙂

  71. Great idea. Though, if you speak the local language and have lived long enough in a place, it will be simpler to apply for the (second) nationality of where you live.

    Free movement across borders is for me what Europe is about. The Brexiteers have no idea. They have not thought through the consequences. Stuck on the wrong side of history, so many wars fought so one country could occupy another. These days you can just go there. I do not believe that the British Parliament will accept the complete end of free movement. It is just so essential, both economically and socially.

  72. A lot of us who live abroad (8 million last count, not just in EU countries), were denied a vote even though we were promised one.

    Nice idea, though can’t see it happening, too many jurisdiction problems.

    I’m lucky, lived in France long enough to get residency and nationality.

    It’s unfortunate fact that there is no mechanism to renounce British citizenship. People would probably fare better as stateless people than they will in post-Brexit Blighty.

  73. Yes great idea. Not sure I should have to pay for a privilege that up til now has been free, especially as I live, and have lived ,in France for the last 12 years, pay my taxes and social contributions to the French and nothing to the UK….and will go on doing so if the French will let me stay with the same rights as I have now But if 120 euros p.a. or thereabouts is what it would take, and it was a tax deductible expense on my French tax declaration Id be ok with that too.

    1. Thank you for taking the time to comment. I guess the idea of the fee is because it would cost the EU something to administer it and it wouldn’t be especially fair to expect all the remaining countries to pay for it. And up until now you’ve made a contribution to the EU through your taxes, and that would no longer be happening. There are issues with the fee and this is obviously not a fully worked-up plan, but I think some kind of contribution would be needed, either individually or collectively by those applying.

  74. This is a nice idea but I can see problems with it. Why would people want to continue paying to the European Union budget when our country no longer enjoys the benefits of the single market? If European union membership became a privilege for the well-off mother then a right for all it would further aggravate the divisions caused by the Brexit debate

    And the political reality is that the European Union will not be interested in such benevolence towards Europhile Brits, they must focus on protecting the EU from further break up. The Brexit vote has been immensely damaging to the European Union not just the United Kingdom. The belligerent rhetoric from the Conservative party conference has removed any residual goodwill. The European Union will watch and wait as the UK economy suffers and the pound sinks. They are hoping that as the damage piles up we will put enough pressure on to our leaders to reverse the mistaken decision of June 24. And that is what we should do, rather than looking for personal solutions like this one. We should pressure our government to postpone EU departure until we have a national consensus on where we are going to.

    The reason why we lost the referendum was because not enough Brits have taken advantage of EU membership to live and work in Europe, therefore resulting in and imbalance in migration. If only there were 3 million Britons living in Europe…
    However you still have time to become a resident of a European country. The French will allow you to become a citizen if you do you postgraduate study in France for two years. I have just moved to Portugal, where are you can become naturalised after six years residency. It is a massive upheaval but I believe it’s worth it for the sake of my children.
    So in conclusion, exercise your rights in the European Union why are you still can, and put as much pressure on the government as you can to reverse this mistake. There is nothing undemocratic about this, given that we are all much clearer now of the costs of that mistake.

    Britain should not leave the European union until we have a national consensus on the kind of relationship we want with the European union after we leave.

    I also believe that the leave vote was a vote against decades cuts, austerity, deindustrialisation and lack of investment by successive right-wing governments. So if we are going to convince the leavers to stay we need to fight for a fairer society too.

  75. I support this. I am trying to apply for dual nationality in Munich, my God the hoops the Germans make you jump through and the time it takes. The problem with the idea is that we live in specific countries. I live in Germany. Do the Germans not have the right to decide what rights I have, and which I don’t? I am not getting any help from Germany in my application, stones are being placed in the way. I wonder if the concept will fly

  76. Yes, yes, yes. Brexit is a calamity; it was never planned for. Gesture politics which went horribly wrong. I resent being stripped of my EU citizenship.

  77. Thank you for this excellent idea! As a USAer living in Britain my “leave to remain” status won’t count, but may it profit those with a red passport!

  78. Great idea. We are being deprived by our own Government of some very significant and valuable rights, which we enjoy as citizens of the European Union. The EU should have the courage to help us to keep our citizenship.

  79. I am not British, I am a Belgian citizen with strong ties to the UK, but I would definitely support the idea of offering EU (or Belgian) citizenship to any UK National asking for it. I’ve actually suggested something very similar on my Facebook page a while back (i.e. offering citizenship of the member-state of their choice to any Brit willing to retain his/her EU status).

    1. Before Belgium changed the law for applying for Belgian nationality I would have qualified and I would be in the wonderful situation of having dual nationality. The changes mean I will struggle to get my application accepted. As my children were born here they face no such problem and so it will be dual nationality for them.

  80. I support this.
    EU citizenship is conferred on individuals via citizenship of a state when it becomes a member state. I wonder, though, whether it is necessarily the case that EU citizenship is removed from individuals when the state’s membership ends. The EU treaties do not explicitly say so as far as I am aware, and there is no precedent. Perhaps treaty law should be examined closely.

  81. From day one I have hoped that something like this would be tabled.

    I am comfortable enough in my nationality to be proudly British and proudly European and see no conflict.

  82. This sounds good. I’ve been living and working in France for over 20 years and have two children born here. I was thinking about British nationality for them, but since Brexit, it seems that my European nationality has become a priority. lets try to get this to work and save what we can…

  83. I like my burgandy passport, I used to like my blue one too but time has moved on….I don’t want to go back to the past, you know, the good old days with polio, rickets and the like! Yes, the EU is much in need of major changes, but change comes from within, not from the sidelines….I WANT TO STAY.

  84. I have also been thinking that there could be a solution where interested UK citizens could pay an affordable amount for an EU passport. Malta sells them but for insane amounts of money – so there is at least a precedent, if not an affordable one. I also wondered what our legal options would be – if this or a future government does decide to take away our rights to free movement, is there a basis for legal action against it? Anyway, I absolutely support attempts to try to solve this, for our own future opportunities and those of our kids. Please let me know how I can help.

  85. Well, let’s go with the “yes, and….” rather than the “yes, but…..” It’s got to be worth a try.

    My father was a member of the Compaign for World Government (yes, all sorts of question marks I know), and had colleagues who travelled the world on their World Government passport. This sounds no more unlikely.

  86. Nice one Stuart – great idea and absolutely sure you will get an overwhelmingly positive response, which makes it all well worth implementing down the line.

  87. I have a dark red passport but it’s a French EU one; I believe I have no roots as my family comes from Europe and other countries. I have lived in the UK for nearly 40 years, payed my taxes there but for some obscure reason was not allowed to vote on this referendum! I know many Brits who live in France and would not like to loose their right to remain there. I am a strong Remainer, having seen all the benefits EU membership has allowed to Britain. No matter what, it is worth trying any avenue for those who want to keep their EU status! I’m in and I think a lot of my UK friends who travel abroad for business or leisure would also be, if only for the ease of moving in and out without the hassle of requesting and paying for visas etc…

  88. A few people have suggested this, but your argument and possible feasibility is very compelling. Keep plugging away with this. It’s a workable idea. Another bit of awareness to show the 48% and growing centre ground are not giving up.

  89. As the yanks would say I don’t want to rain on your parade, but …

    I’m afraid you’re dreaming. The EU is a collections of member states with reciprocal relationships – why on earth should other EU MS give freedom of movement, establishment, service and commerce to UK citizens if the UK doesn’t give it to their citizens? Don’t be ridiculous. The EU is not a state but a collection of states. Eu citizenship is linked to citizenship of a member state, if your state leaves the Union, you lose your citizenship. Its a great shame, but thats how it works.

    I’m becoming French – not that I am French even having lived here for 27 years, but I am European, and of course still British. If you want to stay European, beat the Brexit and attack it for being non democratic – in particular because the EU UK citizens (like myself) were excluded from the suffrage and this may well have swung the result.

    But so far, Brexit means Exit. More should have voted and a better job should have been done of explaining why the EU is a good thing. Also the lies (the EU is undemocratic for example) should have been convincingly countered. But the gutter press etc.

    Best wishes – fog in Channel Euope Cut off.


    1. We know that’s how it works, Nigel, which is why I’m suggesting it changes. The potential benefits for the EU – i.e. why they might accept the idea – are set out in the blog post.

  90. I asked after the referendum and this is the response I received from from the European Commission via Europe Direct:

    Thank you for your message and for sharing your sentiments about the referendum vote of 23 June 2016.

    We understand that those who had wished for a different outcome are disappointed with the result. Commission President Juncker has repeatedly expressed the wish for the UK to remain a member of the EU. But the referendum vote on EU membership was a matter for the UK. In a free and democratic process, the British people have expressed their desire to leave the EU. We regret this decision but we respect it. It is now for the UK to give effect to the outcome of the referendum vote.
    The Commission hopes to have the United Kingdom as a close partner of the European Union in the future. We look forward to the United Kingdom stating its intentions in this respect.
    Until the process for withdrawal from the EU according to Article 50 TEU has been triggered and completed, the UK remains a member of the EU with all rights and obligations of a Member State. EU law continues to apply to the full to the UK and in the UK until it is no longer a member. This also means that until this moment has come, British citizens continue to enjoy the rights of EU citizenship.

    The EU is made up of EU Member States. EU citizens are nationals of EU Member States. On the basis of their EU citizenship, they enjoy the rights EU law confers on EU citizens, such as the right of free movement and voting rights to European and local elections. Citizenship of the Union is linked to national citizenship. Once a Member State leaves the EU, its citizens who do not have the nationality of another EU Member State will no longer be EU citizens and benefit from the special status linked to EU citizenship. As long as the UK is a member of the EU, EU law applies to and within the United Kingdom, both when it comes to rights and obligations, including the rights of EU citizenship.

  91. As a scuba diving instructor at the age of 22, the prospect of being not able to work around Europe is, to put it bluntly, a pain in the ass! So count me in!

  92. I support this. It is worth developing as an idea. In its ‘weakest’ form it would at least be a symbolic gesture of support and identity, while in its strongest form it could actually protect some of the benefits of EU citizenship which we currently have. Picking up on the point above about ‘yet more special pleading from the UK’, perhaps it would have to be offered in other non-EU countries as well such as Switzerland and Norway, or to people with EU family connections? A lot to think about but the basic concept is good.

  93. I have a nasty feeling it won’t get anywhere but as someone whose wife is Dutch so my children have dual nationality I have no wish to be the only one in the family without EU citizenship. It would seem the first step is to get the EU to offer the possibility so getting supportive MEPs might be important and maybe getting the SNP on board but they may have their own reasons for not supporting it, at least at the moment. Very keen to explore this further though. There may be a human rights dimension to it as well.

    1. You might be in luck, David. According to this post-Brexit article in the Mirror, you might be able to apply to be Dutch if you have a Dutch spouse, even if you don’t live in or have never even visited the country. You’ll have to dig out the specifics yourself, but good luck! And thanks for the support.

  94. Definitely worth a try. As a symbolic gesture it sends a message to the citizens of the countries still in the EU post Brexit that many citizens of the UK wish that Britain had remained in the EU.
    Such a movement sends a message to the government to take care what it trades away in its Brexit negotiations.
    And it reminds the leavers of our disgust at the decision they made on our behalf and for which they think we should be grateful.
    I for one not grateful, I am devastated, so any chance to remain in, even on a symbolic level, has to be worth pursuing.

  95. Good idea. Pity that the country we’re living in and the infrastructure it has will be going down the pan though…

  96. Yes please, we wanted a life in France when we retired and to have it taken away now after all the years of hard work is soul destroying. Not only that but we can’t afford a house if we go back to the UK so really a few silly people have taken away our future. Having no children that doesn’t matter much to us but how people with them can live with them-self after risking poverty and war by voting leave I do not know.

  97. Great idea. But what about the idea at the European level? What of all the Europeans who’d accept the ex Eu Brits but who’d also be refused the same rights when they want to go over and stay a short or long while in the UK??

    This is precisely what the UK is now denying other Europeans: freedom of mouvement. I somehow think that the EU would ask for the same for them.

    And that’s precisely what the UK will refuse and what you are now hoping for.

    The EU has always been based on reciprocal rights, which i think is only fair. And if the UK does slam the door on the EU it cannot be to hope to re enter though the window.
    Fair equal rights for everyone? Everyone.

    1. Sure, Corinne, but what else can we suggest? We are individuals, not the Government. We are not the ones who created this mess. Sure, we are asking for something. We are asking for the EU to be generous to pro-Europeans trapped in a country that is leaving the EU. What else can we do?

  98. I think the devil would be in the detail of what benefits (if any) the EU citizen would get for their monthly donation – the UK-wide benefits of EU membership could not still be available to us – our run down areas would cease to get EU funding … Erasmus student exchanges would still be dumped … etc etc etc …. but at least we would be able to retain pride in being part of the European culture still … Perhaps we could get special deals on Euro exchange rates!!! And any amount of detail will pale into insignificance when alongside the nightmare of a divorce settlement that our esteemed leaders are supposed to be trying to negotiate! Count me in.

  99. Fantastic idea. Id pay more than the amount cited about to be an EU national. Any day of the week. I’m still spitting tacks at the despicable result of Brexit. The fact that the less educated (or racially bigoted) members of society, were duped into believing a pack of lies, and voted accordingly – ceremoniously dumping the rest of us in the shite, grates on my every cell. Good on you. Lets hope it can fly.

  100. Fantastic idea and I’d definitely be in favour if it can be made to work (and if the EU were willing to allow it). As a lot of people have commented, I’ve never known anything but European citizenship and it’s as much a part of my identity as my Britishness (if not more so given I was brought up very aware of my Irish heritage). I’m very keen to do anything not to lose that.

  101. Genius! I’ve been wondering how, in addition to protecting EU citizens here, we could empower those who would rather take Brexile than knuckle under to nationalism. Trouble is so many of my loved ones don’t feel as angry as I do and this could make it happen if we can get the idea picked up! #DrowningManFindsStraw

  102. I kind of get what you are saying. However if you were granted the right to be an EU citizen with an EU passport, what ‘rights’ would you have? Free Movement? How would that be reciprocated, who would grant the corresponding free movement to the other EU nations?

    1. Hi Alan. Thanks for the comment. I think it would be principally free movement. Possibly the right to vote in EP elections too (a) if you move to an EU Member State and possibly (b) in Europe-wide lists, if those ever happen. Things like trade & subsidies would have to go as they relate to national governments and the UK wouldn’t be a member. Unfortunately it wouldn’t be reciprocated by the UK; the benefits to the other countries are outlined in the blog post and in one or two replies to comments that I have made. That might not be enough for them, in which case it won’t happen, but if you don’t ask, you definitely won’t get.

  103. Signed – I’m in full support of this idea. My concern is how best to cover my children (both under 10 years old) who are having their European identity stripped from them, when they didn’t even get to vote.

  104. YES. A brilliant, neat idea – I hope the EU would listen to us, for the reasons you give – but even if they don’t, it would be an opportunity for those of us who value EU membership to have a voice. The 48% plus the regrexiteers – that could be a powerful statement in its own right to Parliament, as and when they get a chance to debate whatever Brexit turns out to be.

  105. Count me in. And my children (in their 20s) – if possible I’m even more incensed about the loss of their rights than I am about my own. We all voted to remain with our fellow human beings in Europe, and as someone way way above this comment said, if it came to a choice between British citizenship and European citizenship, at teh moment I’d take the latter.

  106. Definetly interested. I was born in the U.K after we joined the now EU so have always been European as well as British and don’t want my Citizenship stripped from me.

  107. Brilliant idea! Might be an idea to lobby MEPs who also want to remain so they can bring up the question at parliament? Maybe gauge their thoughts on this, might offer some advice as to whether this is a viable plan. Either way, I think we should make as much noise as possible to plant the seed. We need a coherent plan of action to explore every option, a working party?

  108. I am distraught at the prospect of my family and I being disenfranchised through losing our EU Citizenship. We all voted remain and we all value the vision of the European project and its great achievements. I am not a metropolitan nor elite. I am simply a retired 71-year old living in a provincial town. I dearly want my children, their partners and their children to continue to enjoy the benefits and potential of European Citizenship and I so, so resent the current wave of wholly unrealistic small-mindedness that would sweep this away.

    1. Roger, how well you express yourself. For different reasons I decided to make no children. Thank goodness I did not. I would hate to be in your shoes and have to realise that through short sightedness, poor education and prejudice so few had tipped the scales in favour of a bleak future for my offspring.

  109. It’s an interesting idea – and a very attractive one for those of us who feel as though we’ve lost our European identity since the referendum. It may be a deeply radical one for EU leaders to contemplate, as it undermines the concept of the nation state and complicates the idea of the EU as a club of nations. Suddenly, we’re suggesting that it’s a club of nations and/or individuals. But desperate times call for creative measures!

  110. I’m sorry, but there really WASN’T a mandate for Brexit. In every other country and all circumstances a 2/3 majority is required for constitutional change (which this most certainly is), and if Cameron hadn’t been short-sighted, incompetent and bent on trying to hold onto power himself (blew it there then, didn’t he??), the referendum would have been set up so that that was a prerequisite. So there is absolutely NO need to feel bound by what is in fact an irrelevant opinion poll which could and should a) be re-run; and b) ignored by parliament.

    1. Even if the referendum was technically advisory, surely MPs are free to take that advice. Brexit might not happen, but chances are it will. And I feel that trying to influence that process is more effective than pretending it won’t happen. Sorry that we don’t agree on this.

  111. Any pressure on politicians to reconsider the referendum result can only be good.
    I believe so many people were deceived into thinking that leaving was the best choice.
    One hopes that the attempt to bring those responsible for the deception to court is successful.

  112. I really value my EU citizenship – in fact more than my British one! SO I would love the opportunity to become a joint citizen.

  113. Fantastic idea! I’m not British, but I will be eligible for PR in UK in October 2018. Then once I get that PR card about six months later (because application takes about six months), I can apply for British citizenship in around April 2019. It’s touch and go whether I will have British Citizenship by the time Brexit happens, so I’m praying for delays…

  114. I’m in! This is the worst thing to happen in politics in my lifetime and the effects on the country will be bad enough without losing our attachment and our rights and freedoms on a personal level. This is a very fair compromise.

  115. I am British, living in France, married to a Frenchman and have dual nationality. My four children were born here in France and I had hoped that, being bilingual, they would have a bright future ahead with the possibility to later live and work in the UK….so many lost opportunites for future generations…… I am European to the very core and I wholeheartedly support your initiative.

  116. Sounds like a wonderful idea to me. It would be a very generous gesture on the rest of the EU’s part if they were willing to support this, as they probably have less to gain than us from this – however I think it could still be of mutual benefit and as you said – when there’s a will there’s a way. You have my support.

  117. Have you considered drafting a carefully worded petition here?


    If 100,000 people sign parliament has to debate it. I’d suggest something with the gist of ‘finding a way for UK citizens to retain their EU citizenship if they choose to do so’. Couldn’t be limited to Remainers (unfortunately): you can’t prove how you voted. It would probably be a good idea to suggest a financial contribution be required. As noted by various people above, you’d not get full rights as per a national of a full member state. But I’d do it (sign up) anyway in solidarity, and as a sign of respect, for other European nations.

  118. Nice article and thinking, similar to my own thoughts on the subject. I am currently an EU citizen and at some point in the future that will be revoked against my will – isn’t that an infraction of my civil rights?

  119. I would sign up for this, just to make a point if nothing more that I am not proud to be British these days. And perhaps the idea would take off across the continent.

  120. I have felt outraged, bereaved, frustrated, angry…..I’m sure you all get that about the outcome f the referendum and particularly the stripping of m EU citizenship. I think the idea outlined above is marvellous and I would join.

  121. I believe this to be an admirable and sensible idea Stuart. As a Scottish-European who has lived in Spain for twenty-five years, I remember the interminable queueing, the reams of bureaucracy, obstacles, suspicions and the having to go backwards and forwards for working visas etc, before we were granted freedom of movement. I believe that this freedom of movement is a wonderful horizon and mind broadening, life affirming path which should be open to young and old alike. Whilst I have all the necessary paperwork required to begin applying for Spanish nationality, which I will most certainly do if the time comes, I would much rather have such a system initiated and would gladly pay a premium if necessary. This is, at the very least, a demonstration of a firm belief in the European Union, for all its shortcomings, and at best, a highly positive way forward for all of us and our future generations. You most definitely have my full support… and maybe one day we’ll get those wee kilted passports as well!

  122. How would you reconcile parliamentary sovereignty? You would be a member of 2 different legislative bodies and therefore where they differed you would have to take UK law (because that would be where you are), therefore you would be taking EU perks without some of the conditions that go with it.

    Fee or not this would be what the UK government would likely be looking at anyway. Free movement from U.K. without the reciprocating obligation. Logically you could just let the govt buy this for everyone and therefore the whole country would have this free movement with its own border control.

    Sadly, this is exactly why this idea can’t and won’t be allowed by the EU but would be loved by the UK government.

    Saying that we need people to keep thinking up useful solutions and compromise and these people need to be working with our government, however much they may dislike them.

    1. Not sure your point holds water, Mike. How would this be different from, say, a UK/Swedish joint national living in the UK? Or a Canadian/French national living in the United States? That happens and the sky doesn’t fall in. On the other points, we just disagree.

      1. Thanks for replying. I take your point on dual nationality, however, done on such a large scale and instantly I can see causing major issues.

        What I can’t reconcile is that the proposal you make as it stands is that if people pay their EU subs as individuals rather than through taxes then the whole of the uk population can stay in the EU, the U.K. can make all its own laws and nobody from the EU can come in without permission?

        It would be great, but why would anyone go for it at EU level?

        1. I think one thing we can say after the referendum is that the whole of the UK wouldn’t want to remain EU citizens. And even if it did happen all of a sudden, so what? We wouldn’t all instantly move. How would that inconvenience or place a burden on the EU? If I did move across the Channel, I’d be working and paying taxes and contributing; that’d be good for whichever country I moved to, not bad.

          1. Stuart, I can see what would be in for the EU authorities (PR is good) and eventually for the country/ies you’d choose to live in.
            Can’t see what would be in for EU citizens though. They would not be allowed to move to the UK to work, but you’d be allowed to come work (some would say “steal a job”) in their country? Considering one of the main problems is unemployment, I have a hard time seeing any advantages for EU citizens in your solution.
            Don’t get me wrong I’d love to see the UK remain in the EU, but I am of retirement age and not even living in the EU so your idea would have no negative results for me. Not sure how EU citizens who would be impacted would feel.
            I think it would be more effective to put pressure on your own government so that they’d negotiate some Sweden-like agreement. But then again, one of the main reasons used in favor of Brexit has been that the UK didn’t want free transit of citizens any more. THAT to me is the catch 22.

          2. To be frank, Christine, I think that the people of the EU are more likely than the current UK government to listen, be open to compromise and be fair, generous & accommodating.

  123. This is an excellent idea in a country so polarised and divided where half the population has robbed the other half of so much, only for the country to become potentially poorer and meaner. I’d gladly pay £137.00 a year to keep an EU passport. That’s about as much as paying for the TV licence which I never watch these days. If push came to shove I’d even pay my contribution of the full price minus rebate. Would like to continue to support the greatest peace project in European history. Thank you for taking this initiative and for helping our voices to be heard. It’s a win win situation for Leave and Remain voters alike. It’s making the best of a very divisive situation in our country.

  124. As an EU citizen I wish you all the luck in the world. Whatever we can do within the EU we will do.

  125. It’s a great idea in principle, and I would love to do it. The only thing that concerns me is the cost. I couldn’t afford that amount, no matter how much I may want to, especially when considering that it would be double that for us as a couple.

    I expect a lot of other people would be in the same boat, and I fear that it would therefore become just another privilege for the rich, creating and even wider social divide between rich and poor. Perhaps the contribution should be based on a means-tested sliding scale instead, like tax – which, after all, is the way it’s done at present since it is our tax that funds the contribution.

    1. Hi Jess. I guess there would have to be some cost as it would cost to administer the system, but at this stage I wouldn’t get bogged down in the detail. I just plucked the idea for this payment system out of the air.

  126. It is a nice concept and I am signing out of solidarity, as its great to know other people are as angry about this too! I speak French & Spanish, and have just got back from a great few days in Spain and got that sinking feeling as soon as I read the papers here again. I have so called ‘migrant’ friends living here in London working(and paying taxes) in all walks of life from waiters, shop assistants , finance and high profile jobs in the city, and for them to to be considered the ‘main playing cards’ in the political games is disgraceful. And to be constantly told they are fulfilling the will of ‘The British People’ when I am one 48% of those people who never voted for this, based on a referendum that legally is supposed to only be advisory, and a government that is reluctant to let parliament vote on this is so wrong!. This is not democratic at all!!….So yes I will definitely sign even if it is just to show solidarity and apply more pressure on government to consider the will of the 16,141 people who did not want this at all….Sorry Stuart a bit of long comment,but you opened a whole big can worms here;)! You definitely need people to able to easily share this, or look at an official petition or other way for it to gain more traction and coverage. Thanks for posting!

    1. Thanks, Nathan. Yes, it’s a pity there aren’t easy sharing buttons on the WordPress template. I am thinking about next steps at the moment. Thanks again for taking the time to comment, and know that I understand how you feel.

  127. Would be more than willing to pay a small fee to retain my EU citizenship which I value enormously. So fed up of hearing that the country has spoken – many people spoke but the margin is so small it is clear opinion is divided.

  128. I see no reason why not and it allows us to be true citizens. This government has manifestly lost my support fir the version of UK plc they are espousing today. Lets hurry it up…

  129. Yes. Let’s fight for it. We are being stripped of very fundamental rights by a last-past-the-post cabinet of duplicitous chancers led by a fanatical anti-immigration PM assisted by proven serial liars without any constitutional justification, on specious grounds and without any real or clear mandate.

    I feel now infinitely more European than “British” (whatever that now means) and I resent beyond words that my descendants are being stripped of their rights in one of those coups called “bloodless” because the blood is only metaphorical. As others have said, I am ashamed and embarrassed by what was once my country and will do anything I can to redress this inane betrayal.

  130. Hi

    Can understand the sentiments of folk in England and Wales who voted to remain.

    Why not come to Scotland 62% wants to remain in the EU already although we are instructed by the brexiters we can’t.
    Live here. Vote for independence and get a Scots /EU passport as well as your rUK one. Many jobs will also move here as employers would wish to remain in the EU. Best place to be.

  131. I like the idea and definitely would support it, well done. I am devastated that my EU citizenship is being taken away.
    I have my doubts that the Tories would go for it, but it’s got to be worth a try.

    1. Thanks for the suggestion. The response to this post has been greater than I could have hoped for, so right now I’m thinking about next steps.

  132. I fully support your inspired initiative. I vigorously object to my civic rights as a loyal and proud citizen of the EU being abrogated by vulgar majoritarianism.

  133. I as many others who have been out of the U.K. for > 15years have been dis-enfranchised and cannot vote on their future. I have been living in and near Geneva since 1961 and then as now a Multinational, Multilingual, Multicultural city to work at CERN, which was also Multinational, Multilingual, Multicultural Laboratory. Living with many nationalities you soon realize that that Nationalities do not matter and that you make your friends with people who have the same and similar interests, showing clearly that multiculturalism works. I have now retired to France quite near Geneva and would like to keep my European Citizenship and the E.U. Passport. Why should narrow minded little Englanders deprive us ?

  134. I struggle to find any argument against this idea. Finally a pragmatic solution to this horrendous situation.

  135. This is a great idea! The only catch is that we would have to contribute financially in some way, otherwise the citizens of EU member states would be subsiding our benefits as newly minted EU citizens.

    1. Indeed. It’s why I mentioned the fee idea. It could be tax because you would require the UK Government to administer it, as most (though not all) of the people who’d take this up would be UK-based. I don’t want to get too bogged down in the fine detail though as I think it’s the big picture that we need to “sell”.

  136. I’m in! As a British expat living in Malta, I want the freedom to remain, move, work and enjoy Europe. Thanks for the initiative, if I can support your moves forward, sing out!

    1. I love Malta. Have been several times. Beautiful country and very welcoming people. And thanks for the support, Helen. Might be worth checking whether dual Maltese citizenship might be open to you, if you have been there a while. In the meantime, I’ll do my best. Thanks again.

  137. I love this idea. Please make it happen! I’ve been so low since the shambles that was the referendum and appalled at the venom it has released and the lurch to the right of the government (though not surprised). I’d happily pay to continue my membership.

  138. I’m really sorry, but it won’t work. The EU has an incentive to block this.

    The principle is that you can’t have true free trade without freedom of movement. Britain’s government wants free trade with the EU without freedom of movement. This is a great big red line on both sides of the Brexit negotiations, to the point that Britain would rather have trade tariffs than freedom of movement. If the EU created a citizenship detached from a nation and allowed Brits to apply, the would effectively be giving freedom of movement to Brits without Britain reciprocating for EU citizens (of other nations).

    I’m thinking getting a residential address in Scotland might be the answer. If we lose free trade and free movement with Europe, I could see Scotland going independent and joining the EU, and being pretty relaxed about defining who is and is not entitled to Scottish citizenship.

    1. Hi Alex. I understand your point, but I also think it would potentially be a rejuvenating act by the EU – showing themselves, Britain and the World that whilst the UK Government might be taking the country out, there is a strong appeal in the EU as an idea, so much so that many Brits would still want to be a part of it. On Scotland, I am half-Scottish so would qualify automatically, thankfully. It’ll be interesting to see what happens there; polls are unmoved from 2014 result & wouldn’t take much chaos from Brexit talks to move the dial.

  139. Please pursue this Stuart. I’m a European first, then British, then Scottish (although have lived in England all my adult life). I’m sure your creative thinking will appeal to other Scottish friends as much as it appeals to me (notwithstanding the outcome of any future independence referendum).
    I’m feeling less depressed already. Thanks.

  140. Wonderful idea and something I initially thought of when it happened. I have been checking out petitioning Senior EU officials about this and wrote to a couple of MEP’s to get some insight on the process. One suggested doing a direct petition to the EU. I looked at EU website and got some direction on that process. After checking it appears some other people were also petitioning on the same (or similar) grounds. I think this is a wonderful idea particularly as it offers the EU the real opportunity of rooting its status not just as a ‘club’ of nations but also as a union of the peoples of the EU, something they have never done before. I can see this really catching on across all members states and the EU, and we, will finally get to see how much the people of all our nations value this wonderful Union. After all, when it all breaks down, when things don’t work out between nations it is us, the people of each nation, that feel the full impact of that fall out, not the politicians.

    I would be happy to offer help to support you in moving this forward where I can. I also think as well as gathering people together from within the UK who wish for individual EU citizenship we could, in future, ask people from other states the same question. It would be good to visit EU HQ in Brussels to present this proposal once we have enough people signed up.

    Finally, when I was speaking to the MEP she suggested any petition or proposal we/I may want to take should be done well in advance of the U.K. Activating Article 50. Good luck with this and I look forward to hearing from you.

  141. That seems like a brilliant idea!
    I would definitely take this option if this was available. Not only that I like it, I need it for my livelihood. My occupation requires me to be able to work in EU countries at a short notice (a couple of days). £30 is a small price to pay to maintain this right.
    It is just like the case before Britain pulled out from Hong Kong. People who had PR there could apply for a British National and Overseas passport before the Handover, those who had it then can still renew it every 10 years.

  142. Sounds like a fab idea if the EU can be persuaded. It doesn’t unfortunately solve the problem of the EU citizens who want to live and work in the UK who should not be forced out which sadly seems very likely to happen. Having said that, after all the anti immigration rhetoric, they are unlikely to want to work here much longer. A great shame

    1. Indeed. I think we’ll end up letting all those people stay. I just think the Government is handling it very badly. I hope that we are as open as possible post-Brexit. After all, people coming here from other EU countries put more in than they take out; and a narrow victory for Leave doesn’t change that reality.

  143. For it to happen, you need some form of recognition of the idea from the EU itself. They are the most important aspect, as they will have the power to grant or deny the request. So the exploratory energy should be directed in their direction, via a UK MEP perhaps, or directly to someone like Guy Verhofstadt.

  144. I very much support this idea. One thought re: the element of paying a fee: I think it is important that any such proposal be as cheap as possible, in order to make it clear that this is not just another ‘elite’ group trying to avoid Brexit. Further, the actual cost benefit to an individual would be less than the equivalent when the UK was in EU, because we would only be getting the advantages of our own free movement etc., we would no longer have the benefits accruing from living in a country in the Single Market (assuming we’re going to leave that, which looks likely). As such I don’t think it would be necessary to have individual memberships cover an equivalent to the state membership, and I suspect this would be trickier than it seems on the surface anyway. Instead, I think the cost could be covered through the passport charge itself, and by only having passports available for, say, five years. Perhaps there could be an option to pay in annual instalments for those put off by an up-front fee.
    Details aside, I am thoroughly in support of your proposal, and will pass it on to my MP and MEPs

    1. Thanks, Sam. I hear what you’re saying, but I guess we will be asking for something that simultaneously the UK won’t be offering to the rest of the EU, so we are already asking for a favour. I am reluctant however to get too bogged down in detail at this stage, but instead focus on the idea.

  145. This is a very exciting idea- is it feasible? I would happily pay ten quid a month for the privilege of being an EU citizen- even as a pensioner, but one with friends in Europe and who travels and learns from the opportunities Europe gives us.

  146. Good idea. But I can’t see the EU doing it.

    But on this idea let’s identify an EEA country not necessarily EU that would give us speedy dual citizenship.

  147. Deborah made a good comment a bit further back which was most pertinent:-
    “It is just like the case before Britain pulled out from Hong Kong. People who had PR there could apply for a British National and Overseas passport before the Handover, those who had it then can still renew it every 10 years”.
    This makes sense with regard to Britain leaving the EU. Hong Kong citizens were given a way to retain their British connection, it was important to them. The hand back to China was out of those citizens hands, so they were given options, the right to a British passport (well nearly!) Likewise with us UK citizens who have had this B****t forced on us (sorry, I cannot still write or say that word), we too must be given options when the new regime is imposed. Give me an EU passport/citizenship, instead of this unseemly scrabble to find some heritage buried in a country on the mainland (options: great grandmother Irish, but never registered birth of daughter or my mother in foreign births register: no good. Grandfather born in Portugal, but never had birth registered as Portuguese, only as British at the Consulate in Lisbon: no good. Marry my Finnish partner and go and live in Finland for 5 years: would love to, but must pass gruelling Finnish language test, and give up my whole life in the UK – not ideal!)

  148. Thank you, Stuart, for your initiative and hard work. My wife and I would happily pay for a European Passport that effectively acted as a Pan-European Visa and also allowed us to demonstrate our support for the idea of a United Europe, by registering our support for the great peace project, as well as showing our disapproval of the foolish and shortsighted Referendum result. We’re in.

  149. Great initiative. I don’t want to renounce my British nationality and become Swedish but if I have to I will do rather than becoming part of Brexit Island and all that it entails!

    Any time needs putting in on this don’t hesitate to ask!

  150. Absolutely, without doubt, I did not request, ask or even agree with a European referendum, I was “forced ” to participate- and completely subject to the blatant control of the misinformed, and self delusions of an insecure frightened ” I’ll do anything to pretend I am in control” minority of “voting” citizens……to the detriment of their own children and grandchildren they deceive with the word love …. as quoted ” this is not your country, you have borrowed it from your children” –

  151. I’d cling to any lifeboat from this sea of insanity. Not convinced the EU would be that up for it.

  152. Great Idea. Only drawback is that if implemented it would reduce the validity of the current legal actions. Which should be settled by December. Can I suggest putting this on back burner till then, and if necessary, really go for it, send to Donald Tusk.

    1. Hi Richard. This is going to be a long road; there won’t be any clash between this idea and other activities. But thanks for the vote of confidence that it could!

  153. I was adopted , mothers maiden name being Vodden….not an english name but Dutch in origin we think.i didnt vote to.leave so im definitely interested! My children one is half turkish cypriot both grandparents and the other has an Irish grandmother, so yes we re in!!!

  154. So you want the EU to give us freedom to live and work in its territory, and free or subsidised medical care, and all the other social benefits? None of that is paid for by the monthly contributions you’re suggesting we could make – it’s paid for by reciprocity, and without a country to offer reciprocity the idea is a non-starter.

    We have to stop Brexit, that’s all. If, say, the Lib Dems adopted Remain as the centre of their policy, they’d probably wipe the slate at the next election. They have nothing to lose, so why not?

    1. The only right I see them extending to us is freedom of movement. If UK nationals are in their countries, working and paying taxes then they would, of course, get additional benefits, e.g. access to healthcare, but that would be because they’d be there & be contributing, not because of what I’m suggesting. The EU wouldn’t be making any payments to our farmers or handing over cash to our poorer regions. The cost outlay for them would be limited.

  155. Great idea! Want to know more. The enlightenment project seems to have stalled in UK and I want to keep making the world to be a better place.

  156. Count me in I have been devastated since the referendum. I spend half the year in Europe where my partner lives the rest in U.K. and it is going to cause lots of difficulties as we aren’t married. Thanks

  157. A wonderful idea which will have my total support!! Let’s just hope that we can get somewhere with this project which will at least lessen the sadness i feel.

  158. Fantastic idea. I, luckily, have the Irish option, as well as a few more unexplored, but I am adamant I want to keep my European identity. Good luck to your scheme.

  159. In my family of 7 I am the only one without the right to keep my EU citizenship – (Danish husband, 5 dual national kids) – I am terrified of being left here while he gets kicked out and only kids can follow, so this definitely appeals to me. Count me in.

  160. I’m in. I still haven’t recovered from the shock of what has happened yet. We have done nothing wrong to suffer the punishment of losing our wonderful European citizenship. I’m still devastated.

  161. Absolutely, count me in. Please modify this page so you don’t have to scroll past thousands of comments to sign as others supporting this concept will give up as this grows longer.

    1. Hi Shaun. Thanks for the support. And I’m asking people to sign up via this link. 9,000 have already done so, which is brilliant. And I never knew that 400+ would leave comments!

  162. While I would really like this. I can’t see the EU agreeing. It would essentially mean freedom of movement in only one direction. They might just might consider it if total freedom of movement is allowed by the UK. However, that seems very unlikely given current rhetoric.

    1. Sure – but I’d say, if you don’t ask you certainly won’t get, and I’d also say that no country has left before, no group has ever been put in the position that pro-European Brits are about to be put in. And if you’re going to create a flag and an anthem then you can’t just turn your back on those people to whom that has come to mean something. I guess it’s a crunch point for the EU: is it just a club of nations, or is it also something more than that.

  163. Fantastic idea. I’d been thinking along the same lines and was planning to write a letter to the key players in the negotiations when they start, but if we can get a campaign going so much the better.

    In one of the debates before the referendum, I remember hearing a Leave campaigner telling one of their horror stories and claiming that the EU were planning to bring in an EU wide personal tax number. I remember thinking (probably saying out loud in fact) “Hurray, bring it on!”. For people like me who live in another EU country some things are very easy but there’s still a lot of bureaucracy that nationals of the country don’t face. Some examples: I have to carry two pieces of ID (Spanish “foreigners’ number card” and UK passport); I had to re-register my car here (a long and fairly expensive process) and if I decide to move to another EU country with the same car I’ll have to do it again; I have income from Spain and UK so have to do two tax declarations. Some sort of EU passport / residency / tax number would really help (and one for cars too!). So that it wasn’t just for British ex-EU citizens it could also be used by any EU citizen living in another EU country, people from outside the EU with refugee status or permanent residency in an EU country, etc.

    The other related thing is whether the UK’s membership of the EU is forgotten if we leave and it is though we’ve never been a member. So, for example, someone from the UK who passed a driving test, got a university degree or professional qualification, paid national insurance for a number of years while the UK was a member should, if they move to an EU country, still be able to exchange the driving licence for an EU one without having to pass another test, have their qualification accepted automatically, and be able to transfer the NI payments to top up their pension entitlement in the new country.

  164. Count me in, I’d really be up for this. My lucky husband can apply for Irish citizenship
    and although my Mum was Dutch seems I can’t claim Dutch nationality as she relinquished her right to it after the War.

  165. Count me in. Due to residency I have a chance at an alternate EU country citizenship so could keep my EU status that way, and also for my children.

    Others are no so fortunate, so for those, including the children of my relatives who have been more or less abandoned on a potential post Brixit rubbish tip, let’s do it.

    The EU hearing from us, the forgotten 43 million (when you include the children), will hear that there are many British who wish to remain European first and foremost.

    Good luck, for you and us all.

  166. great if it would happen – but I can’t see the EU allowing it – think of all of the numb heads who voted ‘out’ that would apply for the citizenship merely to make their drinking binge holidays easier to get to – and as uk citizens would have no responsibility that should come with the right to hold an EU passport. sorry – it just won’t happen – and as a result, I’m still angry and miserable.

    1. That’s why there should be a citizenship test – aimed at picking off everyone who believes the lies & myths the tabloids tell – and perhaps one might also have to make a public declaration of support for the EU, or demonstrate one’s support for it. Plus, it’d have to be a commitment, not just something you sign up to for a fortnight to help make your summer holiday a little easier.

  167. Yes please, myself and my family have signed. We are British, but have lived in Spain for 16 years. We do not want to lose our EU citizenship, or our Spanish residency.

  168. A fantastic idea.
    I appreciate that I’m not being evicted or persecuted (yet) but having my citizenship taken away from me must be an infringement of my rights.
    Surely we must be able to seek protection from the EU?
    We all have tales of why people voted out. My mother voted out due to a Nigerian nurse being nasty to one of her friends in hospital (who no doubt was equally bigoted ).
    Are we prepared to sacrifice the peace and prosperity that the EU has afforded us to appease people such as my mother? I certainly am not and that is why we must fight on.

  169. Even though I’m a British passport holder, because I’ve lived in Germany more than 15 years I wasn’t even allowed to vote. Taking the many others in my position, who would certainly have voted stay, I think the referendum itself was flawed as it denied legally British people a vote.

    1. I have lived, worked and paid tax in the UK and was not allowed to vote
      I cannot help thinking if people like myself or expats had voted, it could have made a difference.
      I am a French, above all European citizen.
      I am definitely in favour of the idea.

  170. I think this is an excellent idea. I guess paying the subscription fee could be a little bureaucratic-heavy, but the EU isn’t known for its lack of bureaucracy! Best of luck

  171. Wow. British sense of entitlement is overwhelming. The world doesn’t owe you freedom of movement, you know. Britain itself certainly does not support it when it comes to other people moving to Britain, and a British passport is not given to just anybody. But you should be given EU citizenship simply because you want it so badly. God forbid a Brit can’t travel to France on a whim whenever they please! Outrageous! To be deprived of this is so very unfair!
    What a joke.
    Wake up, and accept the consequences of your country’s democratic choice.
    Line up for visas, get used to having your fingerprints taken and your bank statements checked as to whether you can afford travel. Find out what it tastes like to be denied a visa simply because an immigration officer doesn’t think you’re trustworthy enough. Jump through the hoops to be allowed to work abroad. The rest of the world does.

    1. Thanks for stopping by, Nadya. A total misreading of the post, but you’re entitled to your opinion, of course.

  172. It won’t happen. The problem with your idea is that it doesn’t solve the loss of reciprocity as a consequence of the Brexit. For 120 per year, you will retain your freedom to move around in the EU but other EU citizens (like French or Dutch) still lost their right to freely enter and live in England. How do you solve that?

  173. Definitely, although I wish I didn’t have to. My country’s membership of and commitment to EU is more important than my personal interests.

  174. It occurs to me that it might not be possible to renounce your rights as a citizen, or deny the rights of another citizen. For instance the denial of the rights of another to vote for a European representative. Or the right to strip someone of their nationality.
    If a referendum to leave the EU is essentially denying the right to participation and protection of European legislation (Article 3 of Protocol 1) to an unwilling proportion of the populace then does it contravene the 1998 Human Rights Act? Also access to justice at the ECHR?
    Would a would a claimant case set a precedent at the ECJ? Someone set me straight..

  175. I think it’s a great idea , but for the wealthy only , I have been living in france for years , but am handicapped and I simply couldn’t afford a monthly subscription.

    1. Thanks for taking the time to comment. We’d have to pay something. We’d already be asking for a favour, and we couldn’t really expect the EU to pay the bill as well. And whilst around £2.50 to £5 per week will be too much for some, I am not sure it’s fair to say it would be only for the wealthy.

      1. Stuart. I entirely agree with you. Whilst I personally have the money to (willingly) pay the sort of fees you mention, I think most people in much more reduced circumstances than I would find the money given what having an EU passport would actually mean to them. It’s prosaic perhaps to say it when being inside the EU is so much in the national interest of the country, maintaining an EU passport must be considered an essential insurance policy for individuals. I do hope that the Commission will consider it.

  176. It sounds like a step towards a federated Europe. I love that but the brexiteers will squeal like stuck pigs at the very suggestion.

    1. Thanks for the support. Re: the Brexiteers, I say… they’d be out of the EU, so what business would it be of theirs?

  177. Count me in. I was brought up to be a European and still feel I am.

    It surely would be no skin off the Brexiteers noses as they got what they wanted. So perhaps we could get a little of what WE wanted, and that’s to have a European passport and be a European Citizen.

    1. Thanks Mary. That was my idea – that this idea would allow anti-EU people to leave (along with the UK), but allow those of us who are pro-EU to keep our European status. There are no reasonable grounds I can see for a Leave supporter to object.

  178. Well ……36% of the electorate voted for us to stick two fingers up at the European Union…….Trust you are proud of yourselves?

    Currently there are serious possibilities that the city banking sector will `up sticks` and move to the continent.

    That’s a possible loss of 20,000 jobs across the sector and a loss of income to the treasury of perhaps £60 billion in tax revenues.

    Scotland is having a second independence referendum.

    Political parties in Wales talking about the same thing….

    Northern Ireland…..only sensible thing Paul McCartney ever sang about was..

    Give Ireland back to the Irish……It would not surprise me if they took it.

    Soon we could truly be` little Britain`

    Living up to our European reputation as `Island monkeys`

    Value of the pound down by 20%……So that will be good for export we are told.

    So what do we export? Biggest sector might be banking, but they are looking at moving into a European city to still have access to the market.

    IT services moving to Berlin.

    There’s a very large hole in my bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza…a very large hole

    So where are we supposed to find this mythical £35,000,000 to give to the NHS ?

    I can only assume that ‘out’ voters assumed money grew on trees?

    No doubt we would need migrant Europeans to do the picking …..?

    The misinformation, that we the British people were fed, would, had it happened in a court of law would have got someone charged with perjury or worse

    `The offence of wilfully telling an untruth or making a misrepresentation under oath`

    Plus `turncoat` politicians only out for personal gain …

    A prime minister who could not see the writing on the wall in the months leading up to EU referendum vote and was gullible enough to put the referendum to the people in the fist place….

    IMO only due to being scared of a UKIP vote.

    A shame he didn’t follow Churchill’s opinion…..

    `The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.`

    Or Oliver Hardy for that matter..

    `That’s another fine mess you’ve gotten me into.`

    So what next?

    Who will be picking farm crops in Lincolnshire in 12 months time?

    UK unemployed….. I doubt that very much.

    It’s one thing picking strawberries in July…..How about cabbages in February?

    Brussels sprouts in December….I ask you would the average ‘Brit’ do that for minimum wage?

    Dream on……..

    They prefer to ‘sign on’ and stay at home watching SKY television & Jeremy Kyle.

    What do we hear?…..’All these foreigners over here taking our jobs’.

    They have not taken our jobs; they are doing the ones we don’t want to do.

    And they do it very well….

    Cameron was the judge who inadvertently passed sentence on our economy and world status……. Theresa May / Thatcher will be executioner………..

    A second referendum is needed, perhaps to save us from the approaching abyss…..As I hear all too often from out voters ‘I didn’t think my vote would count’……..Or it would settle the argument once and for all…….

    I rest my case.

    We should realise that this country has apparently taken in approximately 3.6 million European nationals. Plus perhaps an unknown number of undeclared migrants from inside and outside the EU.

    The obvious problems this has caused is overcrowding in rented properties, due to our lack of affordable housing, overloading of the school system & social services.

    The National Heath Service is another point in question, overloaded but without foreign nationals it would be in a far more sorry state than without them.

    Any politician worth his salt would have taken this to the EU parliament and negotiated some form of rebate due to the numbers flocking to the UK due to our economy and social administration.

    This was never brought up and if we are no longer EU members it never will.

    3.6 million will be allowed to stay.

    As I have heard said `If you are not in the room, you cannot join in the conversation`

    To leave the European Union would be the single biggest, largest most stupid mistake a UK government has made since the decision to invade Gallipoli…

    100% utter stupidity…..Due to a 3.8% difference of opinion.

    Teresa. Thatcher is in India trying to work out trade deals.

    May I please remind everyone that India is a country that has been at loggerheads with its neighbours since 1948, a Caste system is still in operation, basically a cash economy, as they don’t trust the banks { so at least we have that in common }, respect for women is at an all time low, corruption is NOT unheard of …..plus a population that often have to `shit in a field`…..and gang rape is acceptable….QED

    So we will be better off?

    Dream on.

    `Beam me up Scotty`………

    RIP the UNITED KINGDOM…..NOW little Britain

  179. I’m in the fortunate position of having dual nationality, and being married to a German, so I live in Germany, which gives me a third option, but I would support this in a heartbeat. Interestingly, a very similar proposal is already before the European Parliament, proposed by a Luxemburg MEP. Unsurprisingly it is already raising the ire of the outers who want everyone to suffer the consequences of their bigotry.

  180. Oh, what a lovely idea. It captures our mood of openness and our desire to express European solidarity.

  181. We are retired and live in Brittany, and were horrified over the vote to leave the EU. We have already thought of taking dual nationality. No one knows exactly what will happen when we finally leave the EU. We think this could be a good solution, especially to younger people who work in Europe. We still need freedom of movement
    Will certainly gives this idea further thought, as it deserves.

  182. Already this seems to be a scheme that the EU are perusing… But I think its a good option for those that want to do this (I do). I’m not convinced that the ‘leave’ folks will be happy with this (a comment on the link I’ve put in.) But hey – if everyone is getting what they want, then it seems to me the best way forward… Thank you for sharing your idea! Y’know – it JUST MIGHT WORK! 😉


    1. Thanks for the comment. Leave people might not like it, but on what basis can they complain? I’ve specifically said this would allow the UK (and them) to leave the EU. They’ve no right to control everyone else when they’re getting what they want.

  183. Count me in.
    I had been wondering whether I could retain EU citizenship by applying for a Scottish passport (since my wife was born there) but the Luxembourg MEP’s proposal sounds more likely to fly.

  184. I’m British but I’m also European and don’t want to give that up. I’d like to keep the stars on my passport.

  185. I love the idea of an opt-in to being an EU citizen but paying for it is something I can’t afford because I’m on disability benefits. I voted Remain so would take up any offer of EU citizenship that comes my way. I hope, however, I won’t lose my opportunity to remain an EU citizen because of my financial status.

    1. Hi Myles. I wouldn’t get too caught up with the fee idea. I would guess we’d have to pay something, at least collectively, just as we do now as the UK. But there are many ways that could work. The important thing is winning the big-picture argument.

  186. So you can be European when EU rules suit you and British when they don’t. Why not have a scheme where you have one or the other, not both.

    1. There are plenty of dual nationals in the World. Boris Johnson was one until quite recently. It’s not a new idea or a particularly challenging one.

  187. Definitly count me in…
    Hate this Brexit thing,the lies and deceit they spread to divide a nation…
    Cameron shook the hands of the devil to win at any cost,and lost!

  188. Haven’t had a chance to read all the comments but this idea must have occurred to many people and if you can get it off the ground I’d be prepared to support it. But we have to remember that the EU doesn’t exit as somewhere to be a citizen of and the citizenship rights are really just reciprocal rights, so I am not sure that the idea would work (but let’s hope I am wrong!). What might work however is for an enterprising EU state to offer a kind of ‘flag of convenience’ citizenship in return for payment. So anybody wanting it could apply for citizenship of xxxxx (I won’t name a specific country) which would be obtainable without residency or language or parental qualification, merely for a fixed payment.

    1. Peter – there are EU countries that will sell you a passport, to put it bluntly, but this is hundreds of thousands of pounds. And, yes, some people have said that other EU countries won’t accept it – but if you take that approach in life, why do anything? And on your point about the nature of EU citizenship, I think I address that directly & quite fully in the post. Plus, at least one MEP seems to support exactly this idea: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-citizenship-freedom-of-movement-passport-how-to-keep-parliament-live-move-abroad-a7405196.html

    2. I feel you may be right Peter Sain ley Berry.
      However, I like your idea of “Buying EU Citizenship under a Flag of Convenience”. Sod the “Brexiteers” ! !

  189. Definitely in. My wife is polish, I’m from the uk and voted remain although we currently live and work in Shanghai. Anything to get around the insanity of Brexit should be explored (we would like to come back to the EU at some point …)

  190. I am a citizen of Europe as much as I am a Citizen of the UK and I value very profoundly my European Citizenship, something I want very much to retain.

  191. I think it’s a brilliant idea. I wouldn’t object to paying a small subscription if it allows me to live in Italy.

  192. Great idea. My husband, two sons and I definitely want to keep our European citizenship. We are European citizens.

  193. Great idea. But what are the chances…?. It’s certainly worth a shot. I lived and worked in Germany for many years and have friends and family there. I’d support this all the way.

  194. Great… sounds like it would be a success . Count me in with my wife & our 16 month old son,
    We signed a petition 2 days ago about this a MEP from Luxembourg is trying to get it debated .
    On the subject of (” I want my country back “) Fararge was seen queuing up outside the German embassy to get a German passport 2 days after the EU Referendum vote !

  195. This is an excellent idea, which I believe is being promoted by at least one MEP already. Count me in …

  196. Yes, yes, and more Yes. And, I still fail to understand the “mentality”of those who voted out, and god knows I tried by attending numerous debates pre “Brexit” and asked many very direct questions to which I only ever received either rather “vague”, or inaccurate, answers with little logic, or sensible argument behind them, or more often just the same old “official brexit spiel”. Even my own MP Chris Heaton-Harris advocated Brexit ( but he also voted for the cuts in disability benefits ! !)

    1. Hi Rob. The number is ticking up – currently just shy of 14,000 – so maybe give it another go. Thanks for the support.

  197. I’d love to see this happen. Perhaps we should all write to our MEPs and push them to support this measure.

  198. Nice idea but let’s face it, it won’t happen!
    The EU is NEVER going to grant freedom of movement to UK citizens requesting it unless the UK allows freedom of movement into the UK for EU citizens who request it – there must be some form of reciprocation!

    1. A Liberal MEP is already proposing it in the European Parliament. The reciprocation he is suggesting is an annual fee.

      1. I’ve already added my name to the list and left a comment, which although positive did question whether we should be expected pay the full per capita value which membership now costs us given that a hard Brexit means we would no longer benefit from comsumer, environmental or workplace directives or the protection of the European Court. A further factor in this debate may be important. A full rate citizenzship fee may attract tens of throusands or even hundreds of thousands, but a lower perhaps subsidised citizenship fee which reflects these reduced benefits may attract far more who would be able to afford the annual fee, especially the young and the hard pressed students whose futures have been robbed? Who knows, maybe well over million would subscribe to the idea? What better way for us Remainers (I prefer the term Resisters) to stick it to the three Brexiteers and Mrs May that a significant part of the population are not going to accept Brexit. Indeed what a tactically smart move it would be for the EU to undermine the UK’s case for Brexit?

        1. I’d suggest not getting too hung up on the level of the fee. I have just picked a figure for the purposes of illustrating the idea of a fee. This is only just getting off the ground, and I’d encourage you not to get too bogged down in the fairly arbitrary idea I have for the level the fee is set at. Re: a subsidy – paid by whom? We’re already asking for a favour here, and it would be counterproductive to ask other Europeans not just to give us something they themselves won’t get in return from the UK but also for them to help us pay for it.

          1. I do agree in principle Stuart, but there are political issues here. Just imagine what the effect of hundreds of thousands if not millions of Brits, would have on the Brexit campaign. We do need to consider as well as attract the young who might not yet be in a position to afford what could be hundreds a year. Just imagine all of us saying ‘not in my name’, perhaps a million of us refusing to have our EU citizenship ripped out of our hands. Secondly it would lay bare the UK government’s false argument that the UK population has voted clearly and overwhelmingly for Brexit.

            True there would be no practical benefits for Poland, Romania and so on, so I appreciate there would be no quid pro quo, but I can’t see why EU politicians and commissioners would not see the political advantage in levying a lower, realistic and very attractive fee… surely the more who sign up, the better. What a boost for the supposedly failing EU!

            I apologise if my line is quite hard line, but for me it’s about peaceful resistance: ‘fighting’ any notion of hard (or for that matter soft) Brexit. If that fails then we must find a way of retaining EU citizenship. Your idea is truly excellent and very encouraging but all I am saying is that the EU must not treat us in the same hard-line way that it may choose to adopt with the UK government. We are the innocent party in this stupid irresponsible and ignorant mess.

          2. Hi Ian. Thanks for taking the time to contribute. Having thought about it, I could see how it might be that, say, people under the age of 25 or 30 could qualify for it at least at a reduced rate. Equally, perhaps people who can demonstrate a certain level of competence in a second European language might get treated equally preferentially. I can see how those things could be easily proved (e.g. with the date of birth on your passport and with a qualification). Both those groups might also be more attractive to other EU countries, frankly. I am just not going to get too prescriptive about this though. I do think that overall it would have to be at the very least self-financing. I just don’t think we can ask for a favour and then ask them to pay for it.

  199. An excellent idea!Let`s unite to try and reverse this madness that seem`s to be sweeping across the World.I`m in!

  200. A very interesting idea which I support. My 17 year old daughter and her college friends would all have voted to stay in the EU if they had been allowed to vote.

  201. Before the referendum when discussing the EU with family members especially the process of a directive going from proposed to agreed, elected positions etc, to try to illustrate that to dismiss the EU as non democratic and not elected was disengenuous at best and to deny me a vote on the basis that I had left the UK more than 15 years ago was ridiculous. My own family did not understand why I was upset and why I wanted my children (and all future generations) to have the right to live and work throughout the EU without the need for work visas etc. It caused tension not only within my family but from discussions with other expats in others as wells. The referendum proved devisive in unexpected ways

  202. I wonder if a British person born after 1972 should automatically be entitled to a EU passport as they were born inside the EU.

    1. Hi Simon. Thanks for the support. I’m just clarifying all the various bits about what’s happening in the European Parliament, and I will be posting again on the blog about that.

  203. I did not sign up for fortress Britain. I consider myself a European. Like many British people, my roots are from all over Europe. I could apply for an Irish passport but my family could not. Let the leavers have what they want, I don’t see why I should have my EU citizenship thrown away.

  204. Lets do this! I was born an e.u citizen, and think that I should have the right to keep it, just like if someone who lives in France for 5-7 years can apply for a citizenship, I have been an e.u citizen since year 0 so it shouldn’t be taken away.

  205. Sign me up! It will take ten years to get Greek citizenship, too damn long. I feel so much more a European than a Brit…

  206. Yes please. A great idea. I’m first and foremost a European, now ashamed and enraged at my country of birth!

  207. I have enjoyed the many benefits of being in the EU during my life time. I’d like to continue with that privilege and even more so I’d like the generations coming behind me to have it too.

  208. As a British person living in my fourth european country, this idea is the best one I’ve heard to adequately explain how I feel about the EU. I’d do it and I’d give up British citizenship, if that was an option. Europe is my home, Britain no longer feels like it is.

  209. Could you remove the first paragraph from the sign up page please? It is emotive, speculative and politicised. I can’t sign it as a result. I imagine many brexiters would similarly react. You will get many more signatures and a broader base of support if you can take a more conciliatory tone. It is the governmental aspects of EU that caused me and others to wish Britain to leave. I have no problem if people wish to retain personal citizenship; this is something in which I too would be interested. There is no contradiction here.

  210. Hi – I’m in. Mobility is crap at the mo – but I don’t want to be stuck in a UKIP wet dream..

  211. There are three of us in this family, one young and two a lot older. One of us could theoretically take Irish citizenship (his dad’s parents were both born in Cork) but this way seems preferable. I consider myself a European and have been a total Francophile since even before the original vote to join the EEC, as it was then. We have plans to move to France within the next two – three years and we were astounded that so many people believed the lies about the NHS in the side of the bus! We would all three of us like to maintain our EU Passports.

  212. Please count us in. My family and I have been devastated since the referendum. Our plans to live and work in Europe as a family business have been trashed overnight.

  213. I think that everything posted made a bunch of sense.

    But, think about this, suppose you added a little content?
    I am not saying your information isn’t solid, however what if you added a post
    title that makes people desire more? I mean Want to keep your EU passport?
    Here's how. – #stillEU is a little vanilla.
    You should glance at Yahoo’s front page and watch how they create article titles to get viewers to open the links.
    You might try adding a video or a picture or two to grab readers interested about everything’ve written. Just my opinion, it could bring your posts a little livelier.

  214. I would like to remain an EU citizen, as a widowed man the nanny state in the UK will have nothing for me

  215. You can bet your bottom dollar, that if those that wish to remain EU citizens get preferential treatment, then those “leavers” will also want EU citizenship. You need to distinguish. I left the UK years ago and am aghast at the country now and happy not to be there.

  216. I would rather be a EU citizen than just a British citizen. This is being stolen from me by the lies and subterfuge.

  217. Listen to May’s description to Tusk of her objectives in relation to her triggering Article 50 – sorry, but the ideal relationship she describes is the one she’s just about to leave: incredible! Land of dopes & Tories indeed.

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